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Wednesday, March 14, 2007

A SOAP-BOX OPEN THREAD...

I have a meeting I have to prepare some materials for tonight. Hence, unless I finish early, I will be unable to post new material today. So here is a blank page, Soapbox Open Thread, for those of you who as might wish to scribble your well worn or original thoughts upon-, or simply chat with each other. The subject(s) are entirely up to you.

Have a good day folks. Catch ya's later.

Coyote



47 comments:

kootcoot said...

We could talk about the illustration, of Don Quixote and his pard. It is really cool.

apathysux said...

Very cool picture. You find some of the coolest artwork, coyote!

As an artist of various mediums, including tattoos BTW, I especially like this type of painting with the various figures hidden within the big picture. Alot like life :-)

apathysux

bear said...

Yeah, a lot like life indeed Apathysux.

It's interesting to hear comments about art. Everyone has such unique and yet at times common takes on the same peice. I have worked in clay to pour forms in bronze and it is always of animals. Often it is the animals that are struggling to survive in the harsh realities of today...ie grizzly bears, wolves and so on… I have often wondered how or if my art would change if it was a perfect world for all. Would I have enough "anx" (sp) or passion to work intensely on each one of my pieces? Would my heart come through if I tried?? Or would I be too comfortable…hummm

I love coastal art intensely, and many FN's art styles, so I absolutely love many different styles of art, but I do stay true to my path...

Tat's are beautiful Apathysux... Over the years I have appreciated them more and more. Such personal art... I haven't got any on me, but this primal art continues to fascinate me. Cool art.

This picture is provocative. Many personalities and emotions put down with an interesting use of light...

Anyhow, ranting on... Thanks for the time 'Yote Kootcoots and friends :-)

Peace all,

Bear

kootcoot said...

Hey there bear, I think you mean "angst." Not trying to be a know it all, just so you can get it right the next time, it is a meaningful word.

Coyote said...

My arms are covered with tattoos, apathysux. Mind you, they are now old and faded like myself, and not nearly as good, I think, as some of the work being done today, but I never regretted it. In my day, not many folks had them.

But being a sailor at the time, it was practically mandatory. :-)

If I had the bucks, I'd try and get some of these ones I have cleaned up and improved upon-, if possible.

Eh, glad you guys found the time to stop in and use this open thread. I like the concept myself.

And the Quixote pic is fantastic, isn't it.

I actually spend quite a bit of time looking for art and pics to add to, what would otherwise be, or could be, the tedium of endless type. I think art helps add interest and colour to the place.

Take care, sisters and brothers. :-)

I also like having koot out there, making little improvements to the site.

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Coyote said...

I agree Koot, weird shit at his site. Classic Aryan garbage collection, as one might expect from this goose stepper. And that fondness for fascist black of the Blackshirt wannabe. Very Mosely, English.

Catch ya's later. :-)

apathysux said...

Coyote,
Tattoo's can always be touched up and improved upon it if they are faded. the pigments used nowadays are incredible! Some of my best clientele have been over 65 years old. If you ever find yourself in Haida Gwaii....

Bear,
I would love to work in clay again. Awesome medium, to just watch it grow in your hands!
I used to paint in oils and always loved watching the painting morph. I wish I could sketch like that more often, no time to it seems. Mostly I do a lot of custom designs and I get to do alot of Haida & FN artwork, (my husband is part Haida and we have done a bent wood box and a paddle so far, painting a drum next). I am currently drawing a polar bear on a pile of skulls for my hubby's arm, black and gray is my forte'. I am also working on a portrait of my mom to tattoo on my leg. It will be the first time I tattoo a portrait. I can draw them but do not yet have the confidence to recreate them on skin.
I am also learning to airbrush, my husband wants bigger tanks for his Fatboy and wants me to paint them. Wish I could paint and draw full time, unfortunately it doesn't pay the bills, at least not yet. ;-)

apathysux

apathysux said...

Coyote,
Tattoo's can always be touched up and improved upon it if they are faded. the pigments used nowadays are incredible! Some of my best clientele have been over 65 years old. If you ever find yourself in Haida Gwaii....

Bear,
I would love to work in clay again. Awesome medium, to just watch it grow in your hands!
I used to paint in oils and always loved watching the painting morph. I wish I could sketch like that more often, no time to it seems. Mostly I do a lot of custom designs and I get to do alot of Haida & FN artwork, (my husband is part Haida and we have done a bent wood box and a paddle so far, painting a drum next). I am currently drawing a polar bear on a pile of skulls for my hubby's arm, black and gray is my forte'. I am also working on a portrait of my mom to tattoo on my leg. It will be the first time I tattoo a portrait. I can draw them but do not yet have the confidence to recreate them on skin.
I am also learning to airbrush, my husband wants bigger tanks for his Fatboy and wants me to paint them. Wish I could paint and draw full time, unfortunately it doesn't pay the bills, at least not yet. ;-)

apathysux

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apathysux said...

ooops...sorry for the double post :-0

apathysux said...

hey sentinel...this was a nice open thread where the current discussion is art...so unless you want to join that part of the discussion...fuck-off and take your shit to another thread.

kootcoot said...

Fuck you too sentinel, you don't know what coyote was responding to, this ain't the only place either of us exist. As usual you are talking through you posterior orifice.

" The Sentinel said...

Fuck yourself anonymous-or is it just really 'coyote' and 'kootcoot' making up space? "


speaking of non-existent people, who is this anonymous that you are referring to or can't you tell the difference between apathysux and anonymous, I know it involves some of the same letters.

You seem like an angry little man with an angry little mind - emphasis on the little, in all respects.

bear said...

First...Hey Sentinel, again, the topic is "ART". What do you think of when you think of ART Sentinel? Are you drawn to a style, a medium, or a texture in art? If you have nothing to add in this warm and comfortable conversation... Fuck Off Dude!!

Keep up the Good Work kootcoot, and thanks for the spelling correction bud. :-) Peace man.

B.

Apathysux...!

Cool on the art choice, and understandable given your hubby is part FN’s. I love Haida, and other coastal art. It makes me feel good. The paddle and the drum sound’s amazing... If I was to tat-up, I would consider asking permission to use coastal art for sure.

A Fat Boy eh...awesome. My hubby has what started as a 88b softail, and now is a fire-breathing 116inches of unreliablity :-D Lol. Cool bike though. I am getting a new sportster N 2007, blacked out edition. Ride On...!! Painted tanks an absolute consideration for both of us. Anywhooooo, lots of fun, and summers coming. :-)

Yeah apathysux, three dimensional is a what I do best, but I do understand and enjoy drawing. Clay, is very grounding for me though, and as you said, a great medium indeed. I think the same heart can do either...flat work or 3-dimensional. In fact I think if we lost our hands we would likely use our feet :-) … never know.

Peace to you apathysux,

Bear

Coyote said...

Sorry for the glitch, Bear. Blogger must have read my mind, re the troll nutbar here, and up and enabled the "Moderating" function. Which meant I had to approve all posts. :-)

Beauty, the surge of power it gave me, at least insofar as one could control these troll wreckers. Unfortunately, it also creates other problems with you "good folks" as well. :-)

Still, there is more than one way to skin a cat-, or a troll. B-D lol

bear said...

"Yote,

Understandable given... Thanks my friend, I appreciate all your efforts very much :-)

Yeah...skin a troll 'Yote, a troll... :-)

Cheers,

Bear

Larry Gambone said...

Apathysux, what's it like running a Harley on Haida Gwaii? I have never been there but it seems like there wouldn't be a hell of a lot of traffic and you could really have the place to yourself - a bikers dream! Course it rains alot though...

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Coyote said...

Folks may want to check out the somewhat changed definition of the parameters for this blog, at the top in the main banner.

Nothing is ever absolute.

:-) Love 'n peace, brothers and sisters.

Coyote said...

Though it is great to see the interest in this open thread idea. I've always liked the concept, going back, as I've said before, to one of my favourite US blogs, from whence I've stolen the concept, even if it is a little too Democratic Party beholden in its underlying prejudice, Daily KOS.

Ehhh, we all have our underlying "prejudices", or predilections.

apathysux said...

Sentinel...Actually using MY moniker makes you a troll in my opinion. Also ,hijacking a thread about ART by being an asshole also makes you a troll.

Bear, The new sportster models are nice. Have some great options. Not such a girls bike anymore. I just got a 2003 Hugger with the 1200 kit and all the modifications that I would ask for, except I, too, would like a bigger tank.

So true, I work alot with my hands but not so much with sculpture. Something I would love to aspire to tho. Always wanted a pottery wheel and a kiln. I have been getting into beading, and enjoy creating with leather. I've been working on medicine bags and moccasins. Did some designs in leather for my husband's regalia for his clan's potlatch. I'm part Cree so I am using some of those traditional artforms such as beading to transfer over into the coastal art. Experimenting.

Larry...The weather here hasn't cooperated much but when it does the ride here can be pretty awesome. We're a little short on highway, only about 190 kms all together but they are some very nice kms with a great range of curves and a nice long straight stretch to reallly stretch your legs. For some real riding we try to get off island once a year. Last year we rode to Stewart...beautiful! This year it is to Watson Lake and circle through FSJ and Hudson Hope. Nothing like checking out BC's beauty on a bike.

apathysux

apathy_sux said...

Now my moniker is no longer 'anonymous'.

apathy_sux said...

Bear...BTW...blacked out is my fav.

Eventually I want to black wrap my exhaust, either that or black ceramic with chrome covers. Maybe consider some black powdercoating if I ever have to rebuild the engine. Love the minimalist look when it comes to bikes, Russel Mitchel style.

apathysux

The Sentinel said...
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apathy_sux said...

Oepn thread or not, we were having a pleasant discussion about art before you rudely interrupted.

"Actually it is; and so is 'bear's: It doesn't link to a profile, but more importantly a blog."

And so does yours...point???
My point is now you can no longer sign in as me. Regardless as to whether or not you or anyone else knows my true identity or anyone else's for that matter,you can NO longer fuck with my blogger identity.

apathysux

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kootcoot said...

Apathy_sux, do you mean from Tlell to Port Clements when you mention the long straight stretch? I used to live up there in the 70's and know some folks that are still there.

I haven't been back for decades, but I did drink from St. Mary's spring, so can't die until I get back there. Maybe that's why I'm delaying it. I almost went up with the Walkers in the early nineties, but had another vacation that I was already in the middle of doing.

The Sentinel is a lot like crotch itch don't you think? He's about as useful as crotch itch also, except maybe less.

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apathy_sux said...

done proving your point asshole?
good for you now you have blogger account with my moniker.

Like it is difficult for those who read this blog to tell the difference between the real apathysux and you. No matter what name is used personality speaks loud and clear.

Whatever...you are such a waste of my time.

Anyway...kootcoot...yep that's the staight stretch I meant. It's a little warpy...but you can really test your legs. I haven't drank from St. Mary's spring but I do intend to die here ;-)

me....apathysux

bear said...

Sentinel said: "Anonymous in blogging terms doesn’t mean giving out real credentials but being authentically bound to some online identity. Empty monikers are a popular trick to propagate otherwise empty comment boxes and especially to lend an air of unity and moral backing when used to attack other commentators in a pseudo-third party fashion..."blah-blah-blah...

Con-fusing :-\

Anyhooo, apathysux, thanks for the posts and I like blacked out for the simplicity, and lack of upkeep. I would think it would be good for high precipitation or coastal (salt) areas too eh? Although my hub's bike is black with a powder coated front-end also in black, he still shines, shines, shines any chrome that is left :-D . EXILE is beautiful, and my hubs fav... And oh, he likes bigger tanks too :-) On his bike is a 7 gallon stretched fat-bob tanks mostly 'cause we likes to go on long rides. Haida Gwaii would be a wonderful ride as we love the rainforest and all it smells of life... Rainforests---"tis where we will hang our hat one day for sure...

A pottery wheel and a kiln absolutely...so functional too apathysux. I think of doing sculpture in clay and firing it as a one off piece, but to do my own dishes would be wonderful... A kiln is on my wish list one day.

Interesting as I too am part Cree, and love the arts that you mentioned... I have a medicine bag done by Mary Williams of the Xeni Gwetin'people near Williams Lake. I love the combination you have approached bringing together the two forms of art from the two FN's groups. Beautiful concept apathysux. By the way, what does the polar bear and the skulls tattoo signify if it is not too personal?

Nice visiting… Peace and love,

Bear

apathy_sux said...

Bear...wish it was that deep...My hubby just likes it and the picture I found to use will be beautiful in black and gray. Actually the plan is a sleeve of animals au-naturalle, except the skulls of course, and all haida style animals, totem poles, etc. on the other arm. We have thrown a dragon in there too somewhere. The skulls are just our dark side coming to the surface, our eternal fascination with death...or something like that ;-)

It would be awesome to see you here one day...this is an absolutely beautiful place to live.
Self sufficiency can definitely be accomplished here.

me...apathysux

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bear said...

Hey apathysux...with this Sic MF Blog Troll, this is going to get weird. Right on about the sleeve tat's for your hubby, they will be a wonderful peice of living art apathysux.

Talk soon sister, Peace :-)

Me...Bear


Coyote,

No problem 'Yote, I am sure you'll get it straightened out bud. Thanks for all...

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Below, not me....

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WHO AM I????????)
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kootcoot said...

Hey Sentinel, do you cross dress in meat space too, or do you just impersonate women online?

apathy_sux said...

Sentinel;

You made your point. I freely admit that I made a mistake in suggesting that you were not capable of fucking with my identity. You have shown clearly that you are quite capable of doing so.

You control your reaction to others' actions. There was no reasonable reason for you to interrupt the discussion in the first place. You could have left it alone and kept the conversation to the thread where it started. Namely the NAU thread.

That was what I called you on and you chose to react like a spoiled child, proving that you can do exactly what you want to do. There are consequences to reacting in that manner, even online. It will be difficult for those here to lend any credibility to what you write, as interesting as it may be, because of your actions on this thread. Pity.

apathysux

The Sentinel said...

You want play censor now, eh.

Freedom of speech is a shallow fraud here.

If these idiots disagree with you they delete your posts.

DO NOT WASTE YOU TIME.

lynn said...

I don't have any tattoos but I have lots of fond memories of motorcycles.

My Dad rode a Norton - we didn't have a car until my final year in high school. Now that I think of it maybe there was some "calculated" plan to that on the part of my Dad.

My brother always rode Harleys. Despite looking the wild part he was a really tender-hearted guy who loved animals...I remember a small owl he had rescued that actually perched on his shoulder during his recovery period at our house. He later became a really good photographer, my brother that is, not the owl. ;-)

He was nine years older than me and as a gift to me when I was twelve, ((I don't know how this got past my parents they must have trusted us more than they let on) I rode on the back of his Harley down the coast to Vancouver and my first time ever at the PNE. A big deal in those days for a kid at least.

First I remember patiently waiting... and waiting for my brother at Fred Deeleys, my brother's home away from home in those days. But eventually we did get to the fair where he took me on my first roller coaster ride and just about every other ride we had time for. He even won one of those big stuffed pandas for me, a not well-thought out move for the ride home as I remember. Anyway, years later I realize what a nice thing that was for a twenty-one year old guy to do... no doubt he was trying to be oh-so cool in the big city in his levis and cowboy hat, and here was his wide-eyed kid sister traipsing after him everywhere and tugging on his sleeve.

apathy_sux said...

Hi Lynn,
Very cool story. I was on trikes, snowmobiles and such as a kid. My adopted big sister hung out with biker baddies when she was younger and told me some of the stories. My Dad was always against them. I personally think that he would have suited one very well, but stayed away because he was afraid he would like it TOO much. :-)
I never could resist a guy on a Harley. But never met one I didn't like, tho. Seen a few baddies and was smart enough to stay away.
Always dreamt of having my own. Both my own man on a Harley AND my own Harley. Finally have both ;-)

It's TREV Deeley BTW, but kinda like Fred better. ;-)

apathysux

bear said...

Hey Lynn and apathysux...!!

Love your story too Lynn, and what a sweet bro you have. Biker, and animal lover...great combination :-)I started riding 7ish years ago, my hubby got me into it. He's been riding Harleys all his life, and is passionate about it. All my life, I was more a horse rider than bike, but I once I mounted that “iron steed” (bike), that was it...Too fun. I love the rides to different places, as it gives a whole different perspective about it; smells, heat, cold. Basically it moves the goalpost on a trip to include more… much more... But I think you guys know what I am talking about. It is a great way to travel.

I love this apathysux: " Always dreamt of having my own. Both my own man on a Harley AND my own Harley. Finally have both."

;-)
Too cute, and really in some ways, what else matters...?? :-)

Cheers friends,

Bear

lynn said...

Hi Bear and apathysux,

I've really enjoyed reading the conversation between the two of you...lots of wonderful energy, heart and life in your words.


I think my Dad, while he liked the freedom of a bike, rode his Norton out of a sense of "economy" as well. ;-) He was born in Mandalay, grew up in India and lived there for many years and always used a motor-bike to get around...he wasn't about to change when he came to Canada even with three kids by then. But we all had good shoes ;-)...and he taught us to hike everywhere. I guess that was the "up" side.

My brother never belonged to any motorcycle clubs or gangs...he just liked the freedom of the ride and enjoyed travelling on his own...somehow a trip to Seattle for him would end up in Ecuador...my poor Mom, she was always worrying.

Okay, this is now going to give my age away ...(and then I'm going to have to go for a lonnnng walk on the beach to make myself feel younger than springtime again ;-) ) but when my brother took me to the city it was the late sixties and it really was called Fred Deeley Motor-cycles then...it changed later on to Trev Deeley, not sure when.

Fred Deeley also used to sell small import cars. I wasn't going to 'fess up to this but on that same trip, my brother and I "tried out" one of the sports cars in his showroom there... of course, we could never have afforded to actually buy one, but we did tour all around the city, top down, hair blowing, in a bright red tiny little number ..very naughty of us but for a kid whose parents never owned a car it was like eating ice cream.

Cheers to you both...and good luck on your studies, apathysux...really admirable, I think.

And Bear, you are absolutely right on when you say "and really in some ways, what else matters??"

Much agree.

Peace,

Lynn

apathy_sux said...

Lynn, very neat peice of history re: Trev/Fred Deeley's. I really do like 'Fred Deeley's' better. And I think EVERYONE should at least once take a convertible out on the highway. That too is a blast. Takes me back to the 'older' days riding in California sans helmet, before the helmet law came into effect. The rally against the helmet law was actually my first and I think, only protest rally ;-)
Priorities ya know.

I don't recommend riding without especially after we lost one of our greatest bros. for that reason, but I do hafta say there is nothing like your hair blowing in the wind on when riding that 'ironsteed' same as the convertible. Lynn that must have been the best 'ice cream'.

Re: studies, not bad now. But will get really intensive if I am accepted at Royal Roads in the fall.

And...Bear...you are so right. Aside from an undergraduate degree in justice studies, what more could I want??? :-)

apathysux